with regard to chris christie, obviously, if they think that was their problem, that is malpractice. that's what i'm talking about what people are saying, i've got to get hired again, put this on chris christie. it is interesting with hillary, my read of it was, okay, they think hillary's running and they want to do a book. they want to throw out that, like, you know, hillary was going to be the one. that seemed like a little bit of pandering to me. >> and basically, looks like daly thinks it was considered amongst a bunch of other options. i do think there is no way for the obama/clinton relationship not to fascinate us because these are the sort of most preeminent figures in democratic politics. people crying in bars fighting about it like every night for months of my life. and, no, seriously -- it was like -- >> did you cry, chris? >> i did not. and i don't think i made anyone cry, i hope. but there were tears, you know, shed. and what i do think comes through and i think i've heard this from other people is th that -- these are human beings. that's one of the things i liked about